1 00:00:09,190 --> 00:00:07,190 good afternoon 2 00:00:11,270 --> 00:00:09,200 welcome to nasa headquarters in 3 00:00:13,669 --> 00:00:11,280 washington d.c my name is dwayne brown 4 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:13,679 from the office of communications 5 00:00:18,310 --> 00:00:15,599 today we're going to take a trip to the 6 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:18,320 solar system and beyond 7 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:20,080 recent news headlines around the world 8 00:00:25,509 --> 00:00:21,920 have reported nasa findings of large 9 00:00:27,750 --> 00:00:25,519 amounts of water long ago on mars but 10 00:00:29,589 --> 00:00:27,760 present today on other bodies in our 11 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:29,599 solar system 12 00:00:33,670 --> 00:00:31,599 we know this because at nasa in the 13 00:00:35,510 --> 00:00:33,680 solar system and beyond 14 00:00:37,190 --> 00:00:35,520 we're out there 15 00:00:38,549 --> 00:00:37,200 the news of water is not only intriguing 16 00:00:41,110 --> 00:00:38,559 to scientists 17 00:00:44,069 --> 00:00:41,120 but could humankind perhaps be 18 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:44,079 getting even closer to answering where 19 00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:46,239 do we come from 20 00:00:49,830 --> 00:00:47,840 where are we going 21 00:00:51,750 --> 00:00:49,840 are we alone 22 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:51,760 today you hear what the experts have to 23 00:00:53,990 --> 00:00:52,719 say 24 00:00:56,150 --> 00:00:54,000 we'll have brief remarks and 25 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,160 presentations and then we'll open it up 26 00:01:00,389 --> 00:00:58,800 to questions here in our audience 27 00:01:01,990 --> 00:01:00,399 our phone lines 28 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:02,000 and social media 29 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:04,000 and there is a lot of buzz on social 30 00:01:07,030 --> 00:01:05,040 media 31 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:07,040 on this subject 32 00:01:12,550 --> 00:01:09,760 send in your questions to hashtag 33 00:01:14,149 --> 00:01:12,560 ask nasa 34 00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:14,159 before we get started let me introduce 35 00:01:17,510 --> 00:01:15,360 you to 36 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:17,520 our unique 37 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:20,320 folks here on the stage first up 38 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:22,560 dr john grunsfeld 39 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:24,640 five-time space shuttle astronaut and 40 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:27,280 associate administrator for the science 41 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:28,400 mission director here at nasa 42 00:01:33,190 --> 00:01:30,880 headquarters and let me add that 43 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:33,200 out of those five flights three times dr 44 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:34,880 gruntsville service the hubble space 45 00:01:39,749 --> 00:01:37,439 telescope and this month humankind 46 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:39,759 celebrates 25 years 47 00:01:43,910 --> 00:01:41,840 of the hubble in operations in space i 48 00:01:52,630 --> 00:01:43,920 think that deserves a round of applause 49 00:01:59,109 --> 00:01:56,149 following dr grunsfeld is dr jim green 50 00:02:02,950 --> 00:01:59,119 director of planetary science 51 00:02:06,630 --> 00:02:04,709 dr jeffrey newmark 52 00:02:08,550 --> 00:02:06,640 interim director 53 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:08,560 of heliophysics 54 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:13,990 and dr paul hertz 55 00:02:19,830 --> 00:02:17,040 director of astrophysics 56 00:02:23,830 --> 00:02:19,840 at nasa headquarters 57 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:23,840 and dr ellen stofan nasa's chief 58 00:02:27,430 --> 00:02:25,680 scientist 59 00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:27,440 fasten your seat belts 60 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:29,920 let's go to the solar system and beyond 61 00:02:34,550 --> 00:02:32,720 over to you dr gruntsfield 62 00:02:36,710 --> 00:02:34,560 thank you very much as you know our job 63 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:36,720 here at nasa is to innovate 64 00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:37,840 explore 65 00:02:42,309 --> 00:02:40,080 discover and inspire 66 00:02:45,589 --> 00:02:42,319 and i believe the science program really 67 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:45,599 epitomizes that that mantra 68 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:47,440 we try and answer fundamental questions 69 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:49,360 as you heard dwayne say 70 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:50,879 where did we come from where did the 71 00:02:54,470 --> 00:02:53,040 bits that we're made out of come from 72 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:54,480 where are we going what's the fate of 73 00:03:00,550 --> 00:02:57,200 the universe and are we alone 74 00:03:02,710 --> 00:03:00,560 on the question of you know other other 75 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:02,720 beings out there of any kind 76 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:05,120 science right now at nasa is exploring 77 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:07,040 the sun in great detail 78 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:08,720 uh from mercury with the messenger 79 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:11,680 spacecraft still orbiting mercury 80 00:03:16,309 --> 00:03:14,400 uh out all the way to pluto new horizons 81 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,319 will reach uh spacecraft will reach 82 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:19,120 pluto this summer and beyond with 83 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:21,680 voyager and of course we have maven that 84 00:03:26,309 --> 00:03:23,680 just recently arrived at mars studying 85 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:26,319 the the atmosphere and current 86 00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:28,799 loss of the atmosphere at mars dawn has 87 00:03:32,390 --> 00:03:31,360 just arrived at ceres cassini is still 88 00:03:34,390 --> 00:03:32,400 studying 89 00:03:36,309 --> 00:03:34,400 saturn and the moons of saturn 90 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:36,319 it's really an amazing exploration of 91 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:38,640 our solar system and much more 92 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:40,400 beyond we have hubble celebrating the 93 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:43,440 25th anniversary of time on orbit and 94 00:03:47,110 --> 00:03:44,799 it's kind of neat to think about all of 95 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:47,120 our students today in in grade school 96 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:49,200 and high school and college who have 97 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:50,959 lived in a world 98 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:54,000 and have always known hubble 99 00:03:58,309 --> 00:03:56,239 kepler has told us that we live in a 100 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:58,319 galaxy and in fact a universe that's 101 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:00,400 filled with solar systems 102 00:04:05,429 --> 00:04:03,280 and many planets that may resemble earth 103 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:05,439 in being a rocky planet in a potentially 104 00:04:08,789 --> 00:04:07,280 habitable zone 105 00:04:10,390 --> 00:04:08,799 hubble and spitzer have allowed us 106 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:10,400 already to follow up by studying the 107 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:12,560 atmospheres of some of those planets and 108 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:14,480 the james webb space telescope which 109 00:04:19,270 --> 00:04:16,959 we'll launch in october of 2018 will 110 00:04:21,030 --> 00:04:19,280 allow us to explore uh in much more 111 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:21,040 detail the atmospheres of planets around 112 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:23,360 nearby stars 113 00:04:30,150 --> 00:04:25,919 here on earth we live on a water planet 114 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,749 some cases literally everywhere 115 00:04:36,629 --> 00:04:35,590 and water is critical for our life on 116 00:04:39,909 --> 00:04:36,639 earth 117 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:39,919 observing 118 00:04:44,230 --> 00:04:41,360 constellation 119 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:44,240 that you know the propagation of earth 120 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:45,040 our 121 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:47,440 water cycle is a very critical thing to 122 00:04:50,550 --> 00:04:48,960 understand that we can only understand 123 00:04:52,469 --> 00:04:50,560 from space we just launched the soil 124 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:52,479 moisture active passive mission to look 125 00:04:55,909 --> 00:04:54,240 at that tiny amount of moisture in the 126 00:04:57,510 --> 00:04:55,919 soil and we know from the current 127 00:04:59,830 --> 00:04:57,520 drought situation in california and our 128 00:05:01,749 --> 00:04:59,840 american west how critical that is but 129 00:05:02,790 --> 00:05:01,759 water is everywhere in our solar system 130 00:05:04,390 --> 00:05:02,800 as well 131 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:04,400 and we're seeing that through our 132 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:06,080 various missions and you'll hear hear 133 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:07,120 about that 134 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:08,800 in our quest to answer the question of 135 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:10,400 are we alone in the universe we're 136 00:05:14,870 --> 00:05:12,639 looking for other habitable environments 137 00:05:16,710 --> 00:05:14,880 besides here on earth of course 138 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:16,720 and we're seeing that environment in 139 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:18,320 many different places 140 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:19,919 you'll hear a little bit about our mars 141 00:05:23,909 --> 00:05:21,440 rovers that have established that mars 142 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:23,919 was once habitable and mars has water 143 00:05:26,469 --> 00:05:25,120 today 144 00:05:28,950 --> 00:05:26,479 it had 145 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:28,960 freshwater lakes and its own water cycle 146 00:05:33,590 --> 00:05:31,280 but it also has organics 147 00:05:35,430 --> 00:05:33,600 we've seen a methane signal we know that 148 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:35,440 there are nitrates in the martian 149 00:05:38,550 --> 00:05:36,479 surface 150 00:05:39,909 --> 00:05:38,560 it's currently a habitable environment 151 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:39,919 but we don't know 152 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:43,280 whether there's was or is life on mars 153 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:44,720 and we're seeing in some of the icy 154 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:46,320 moons the 155 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:49,120 tantalizing possibility that there are 156 00:05:51,909 --> 00:05:50,400 oceans that have been around for 157 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:51,919 billions of years that would also 158 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:55,280 provide a habitat for primitive life and 159 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:56,960 we're very happy this year to be able to 160 00:06:01,909 --> 00:05:59,120 say that we're starting a mission to go 161 00:06:04,629 --> 00:06:01,919 study the moon of jupiter europa to see 162 00:06:07,270 --> 00:06:04,639 if it perhaps has signs of habitable 163 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:07,280 environments or perhaps even life 164 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:09,120 this is just a grand time to be 165 00:06:12,790 --> 00:06:10,800 exploring science to be exploring our 166 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:12,800 solar system and beyond 167 00:06:18,150 --> 00:06:15,440 and i look forward to all your questions 168 00:06:20,309 --> 00:06:18,160 jim green thank you very much john 169 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:20,319 what i'd like to do today is to talk a 170 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:22,160 little bit about some of the fabulous 171 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:24,400 observations that john mentioned and a 172 00:06:27,670 --> 00:06:26,080 number of others and we'll start of 173 00:06:29,830 --> 00:06:27,680 course with mars 174 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:29,840 mars like earth is in what we call the 175 00:06:34,870 --> 00:06:32,479 habitable zone the region that extends 176 00:06:37,909 --> 00:06:34,880 around the sun for which the sun's light 177 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:37,919 on a body about like the earth 178 00:06:43,029 --> 00:06:40,479 is such that water can exist in three 179 00:06:45,270 --> 00:06:43,039 phases liquid phase 180 00:06:47,590 --> 00:06:45,280 solid and vapor 181 00:06:50,150 --> 00:06:47,600 now today mars although it's in the 182 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:50,160 habitable zone is a very arid planet and 183 00:06:55,029 --> 00:06:52,960 if i can have my first video 184 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:55,039 what we've discovered using our assets 185 00:06:58,070 --> 00:06:56,160 at mars 186 00:07:01,189 --> 00:06:58,080 looking at the terrain and our ground 187 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:01,199 truth observations from all our rovers 188 00:07:06,070 --> 00:07:03,680 is that mars in its past had a 189 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,080 significant amount of water 190 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:08,800 in fact as john mentioned it had a a 191 00:07:13,909 --> 00:07:10,880 habitable environment curiosity is in a 192 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:13,919 region where water flowed pretty rapidly 193 00:07:19,510 --> 00:07:17,039 so when we think of mars in its past we 194 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:19,520 recognize that it was a 195 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:22,560 water world much like the earth it had 196 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:25,440 clouds it had oceans uh and in a 197 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:27,840 hydrological cycle 198 00:07:32,230 --> 00:07:29,759 but the most recent observations that 199 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:32,240 are really tantalizing are those that 200 00:07:36,710 --> 00:07:34,160 were made with ground-based telescopes 201 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:36,720 in the infrared these telescopes were 202 00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:40,639 looking at the north polar cap of mars 203 00:07:43,589 --> 00:07:41,440 for 204 00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:43,599 what's called the deuterium to hydrogen 205 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:46,560 ratio this is called the d to h ratio 206 00:07:50,950 --> 00:07:48,800 and once we make those measurements and 207 00:07:54,070 --> 00:07:50,960 we compare them with earth we then can 208 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:54,080 extrapolate back in time how much water 209 00:07:58,309 --> 00:07:56,319 really existed on the surface of mars 210 00:08:00,469 --> 00:07:58,319 now i mean water i don't mean ice and i 211 00:08:02,230 --> 00:08:00,479 don't mean the vapor and what we find 212 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:02,240 out is really illustrated in the next 213 00:08:05,189 --> 00:08:03,680 video 214 00:08:07,589 --> 00:08:05,199 here we see 215 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:07,599 mars as it was in the past but now we're 216 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:09,680 going to paint the oceans we're going to 217 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:11,199 strip away the clouds we're going to 218 00:08:14,230 --> 00:08:13,280 look through the atmosphere and what we 219 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:14,240 find 220 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:17,440 is that about 50 percent of the northern 221 00:08:23,189 --> 00:08:20,960 hemisphere of mars had water and it had 222 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:23,199 it for a very long period of time 223 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:25,360 perhaps more than a billion years 224 00:08:28,869 --> 00:08:27,759 current thinking is about 1.2 billion 225 00:08:30,869 --> 00:08:28,879 years 226 00:08:33,029 --> 00:08:30,879 now in fact some of this ocean was as 227 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,039 much as a mile deep 228 00:08:38,389 --> 00:08:36,240 now curiosity is sitting in a crater not 229 00:08:40,469 --> 00:08:38,399 on the ancient shore 230 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:40,479 line of where this ocean would be but a 231 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:42,880 little inland but what we do know and 232 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:45,279 what we have found out is that water 233 00:08:50,310 --> 00:08:47,839 cycle on mars was such that it popped 234 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:50,320 over the crater wall flowed down into 235 00:08:55,269 --> 00:08:52,640 the crater and in fact did this 236 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:55,279 repeatedly over perhaps millions and 237 00:08:59,910 --> 00:08:57,839 millions of years and actually built up 238 00:09:03,110 --> 00:08:59,920 that large mountain called mount sharp 239 00:09:06,070 --> 00:09:03,120 in the center of uh of gale crater 240 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:06,080 so mars was much more earth-like in a 241 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:09,519 habitable zone for a very long period of 242 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:12,000 time than we ever imagined this is 243 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:14,160 really an exciting time 244 00:09:19,829 --> 00:09:17,440 now just beyond mars is a region called 245 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:19,839 the asteroid belt but it's also a 246 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:22,959 location for which the solar energy is 247 00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:25,839 such that beyond a certain location we 248 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:27,279 call the snow line 249 00:09:30,550 --> 00:09:29,440 further out than the snow line 250 00:09:33,190 --> 00:09:30,560 we find 251 00:09:34,790 --> 00:09:33,200 water should be only in one phase only 252 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:34,800 in the solid phase 253 00:09:38,310 --> 00:09:36,880 but what we're finding is that's not 254 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:38,320 true either 255 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:40,560 if we look at the next uh my first 256 00:09:45,190 --> 00:09:42,240 graphic 257 00:09:47,269 --> 00:09:45,200 here we see what galileo saw you know 258 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:47,279 400 plus years ago the galilean 259 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:50,000 satellites the moons of jupiter io 260 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:52,160 europa ganymede and callisto and as you 261 00:09:57,750 --> 00:09:54,240 can see they're ordered in such a way 262 00:09:59,829 --> 00:09:57,760 with io close to jupiter and the gravity 263 00:10:03,110 --> 00:09:59,839 interaction between jupiter and the moon 264 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:03,120 io as such with tidal forces that it 265 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:05,440 literally heats the inside of io it 266 00:10:10,230 --> 00:10:07,760 turns it inside out 267 00:10:12,230 --> 00:10:10,240 iowa is a very volcanic world don't 268 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:12,240 expect any water there 269 00:10:17,269 --> 00:10:14,480 however the next one europa we're 270 00:10:19,829 --> 00:10:17,279 finding at much different location 271 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:19,839 it's far enough out that the tidal 272 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:22,959 forces don't dissipate its eye shell but 273 00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:24,160 retain 274 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:25,279 enough 275 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:28,880 water in liquid form below an ice crust 276 00:10:33,910 --> 00:10:30,800 to really make it an exciting place to 277 00:10:36,790 --> 00:10:33,920 look at so if i can have the next slide 278 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:36,800 most recent observations from hubble 279 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:39,120 have really tantalized us 280 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:40,640 in going to 281 00:10:45,269 --> 00:10:42,720 to europa 282 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:45,279 as our future mission here we see 283 00:10:51,670 --> 00:10:47,279 potential 284 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:51,680 plumes of material ice water ice flowing 285 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:52,959 out from 286 00:10:57,190 --> 00:10:54,720 cracks perhaps 287 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:57,200 in europe in the southern hemisphere and 288 00:11:01,030 --> 00:10:59,120 recoating the surface 289 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:01,040 this is must be what was happening 290 00:11:05,430 --> 00:11:04,079 because the surface of of europa is very 291 00:11:07,110 --> 00:11:05,440 little cratered 292 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:07,120 this is just a tremendous set of 293 00:11:12,069 --> 00:11:10,160 observations but even more recently were 294 00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:12,079 those in my next slide 295 00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:14,880 of humble observations of aurora 296 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:18,640 on ganymede now ganymede is a huge body 297 00:11:23,590 --> 00:11:21,040 it is the largest moon in the solar 298 00:11:25,829 --> 00:11:23,600 system larger than our own moon 299 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:25,839 it has a magnetic field which is also a 300 00:11:30,069 --> 00:11:28,959 very bizarre thing for a moon to have 301 00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:30,079 but 302 00:11:34,150 --> 00:11:32,240 that magnetic field as it interacts with 303 00:11:36,230 --> 00:11:34,160 jupiter's magnetic field allows 304 00:11:38,790 --> 00:11:36,240 particles to be exchanged between the 305 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:38,800 two planets or the planet and the moon 306 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:41,760 ganymede and this produces aurora now 307 00:11:45,829 --> 00:11:44,000 that's great we can observe this aurora 308 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:45,839 we've seen the aurora many times but 309 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:48,240 when we do a detailed analysis of the 310 00:11:51,670 --> 00:11:50,560 aurora we find out something very 311 00:11:53,430 --> 00:11:51,680 important 312 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:53,440 now the magnetic field of jupiter 313 00:11:58,870 --> 00:11:56,800 actually is is is pretty twisted and by 314 00:12:00,389 --> 00:11:58,880 the time it gets out to ganymede it can 315 00:12:02,550 --> 00:12:00,399 really rock 316 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:02,560 back and forth as ganymede moves through 317 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:04,480 the magnetosphere of jupiter we 318 00:12:09,269 --> 00:12:06,480 therefore expected the aurora to rock 319 00:12:11,910 --> 00:12:09,279 back and forth but it doesn't it rocks 320 00:12:14,470 --> 00:12:11,920 very little now this means that some 321 00:12:15,829 --> 00:12:14,480 sort of current arises underneath that 322 00:12:18,550 --> 00:12:15,839 ice crust 323 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:18,560 generating another magnetic field that 324 00:12:24,069 --> 00:12:21,360 then stabilizes this aurora such that we 325 00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:24,079 see it in a particular place from those 326 00:12:29,269 --> 00:12:25,920 data we now know 327 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:29,279 that indeed ganymede has an undercrossed 328 00:12:32,550 --> 00:12:30,399 ocean 329 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:32,560 now we only are just getting tantalizing 330 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:35,279 glimpses of that how deep it is you know 331 00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:38,320 but but it must be a vast body of water 332 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:40,320 this changes our perspective of where 333 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:43,120 habitable zones are completely my next 334 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:44,240 slide 335 00:12:47,430 --> 00:12:46,320 here we see those galilean satellites 336 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:47,440 once again 337 00:12:52,949 --> 00:12:50,639 io's closest to jupiter but it's a 338 00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:52,959 volcanic world it's not 339 00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:55,760 uh an icy world but we know now that 340 00:12:59,829 --> 00:12:57,839 europa and ganymede have a significant 341 00:13:01,910 --> 00:12:59,839 amount of water underneath their ice 342 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:01,920 crust and in fact we now believe europa 343 00:13:07,750 --> 00:13:05,680 has perhaps twice the amount of water 344 00:13:09,670 --> 00:13:07,760 underneath that ice crust that the earth 345 00:13:11,509 --> 00:13:09,680 has on its surface 346 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:11,519 with the latest hubble observations 347 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:13,360 we're going to include ganymede now in 348 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:15,200 that habitable zone because water is 349 00:13:19,110 --> 00:13:17,440 incredibly important now there's some 350 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:19,120 ideas that there may be water and 351 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:21,519 callisto but we haven't confirmed that 352 00:13:25,190 --> 00:13:23,680 but at least now we recognize that 353 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:25,200 habitable zones 354 00:13:28,710 --> 00:13:26,320 aren't just 355 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:28,720 around stars but they can indeed be 356 00:13:33,269 --> 00:13:30,720 around our giant planets 357 00:13:36,470 --> 00:13:33,279 what we're finding out is that the solar 358 00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:36,480 system is really a soggy place 359 00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:38,480 now all these bodies of course are 360 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:40,160 sitting in the solar wind 361 00:13:44,870 --> 00:13:42,800 and that changes the dynamics of the 362 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:44,880 water and the atmosphere as they 363 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:47,040 interact with the solar wind and for 364 00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:48,800 that i'm going to turn to jeff to 365 00:13:51,189 --> 00:13:49,760 explain 366 00:13:53,189 --> 00:13:51,199 thank you jim 367 00:13:55,189 --> 00:13:53,199 indeed all the planets and moons that 368 00:13:57,269 --> 00:13:55,199 jim just talked about are actually 369 00:13:59,509 --> 00:13:57,279 embedded in the solar atmosphere the 370 00:14:01,590 --> 00:13:59,519 extended atmosphere of our sun 371 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:01,600 what we're trying to do is understand 372 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:04,160 how the sun interacts with the planets 373 00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:05,760 the moons 374 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:09,120 and this as a connected system 375 00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:11,760 you can please run my first video 376 00:14:16,069 --> 00:14:14,079 what we see here is a model of the inner 377 00:14:18,310 --> 00:14:16,079 solar system you see the planets and 378 00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:18,320 what we want to do is understand how the 379 00:14:23,189 --> 00:14:21,120 sun what is varying what is driving the 380 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:23,199 solar wind that jim mentioned 381 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:25,600 and how it interacts with planets here 382 00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:26,399 and 383 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:28,079 in fact planets elsewhere how other 384 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:30,079 stars how their winds interact with 385 00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:32,800 planets throughout the universe 386 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:34,639 well as we'll see this interaction 387 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:37,120 actually also involves the distribution 388 00:14:41,189 --> 00:14:39,199 of water throughout our solar system and 389 00:14:42,389 --> 00:14:41,199 indeed throughout other planetary 390 00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:42,399 systems 391 00:14:46,470 --> 00:14:44,720 in this model here what we see is a 392 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:46,480 series of solar storms we call them 393 00:14:52,870 --> 00:14:49,519 coronal mass ejections or cmes this is a 394 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:52,880 model of a series of events from 2012 395 00:14:56,389 --> 00:14:54,959 and you see these large scale events 396 00:14:58,069 --> 00:14:56,399 leave nothing in our solar system 397 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,079 untouched these these are tremendous 398 00:15:02,550 --> 00:15:00,560 events with tremendous amount of energy 399 00:15:04,230 --> 00:15:02,560 this is billions of tons of material 400 00:15:06,710 --> 00:15:04,240 traveling millions of miles an hour 401 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:06,720 throughout interplanetary space 402 00:15:10,629 --> 00:15:08,560 and indeed understanding how these 403 00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:10,639 interact with our planets 404 00:15:16,470 --> 00:15:13,920 is crucial for our understanding of the 405 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:16,480 life cycle of water on these planets and 406 00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:18,880 indeed for habitability throughout the 407 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:20,480 universe 408 00:15:24,629 --> 00:15:22,480 the constant streaming of the solar wind 409 00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:24,639 and the solar storms 410 00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:26,880 impacts the ways that our planets and 411 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:28,800 other bodies of solar system in a wide 412 00:15:32,230 --> 00:15:30,480 variety of ways 413 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:32,240 as jim described 414 00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:34,079 mars was covered by water three to four 415 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:35,360 billion years ago 416 00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:37,920 however as we know today it is drier 417 00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:40,480 what may have caused this change and 418 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:42,480 what role did the solar wind and the sun 419 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:44,160 have to play in this 420 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:45,600 it is thought that some three and a half 421 00:15:50,069 --> 00:15:48,079 billion years ago extreme interplanetary 422 00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:50,079 conditions caused by the sun may have 423 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:52,880 caused a much larger rate of water loss 424 00:15:57,749 --> 00:15:54,480 in the martian atmosphere 425 00:16:00,629 --> 00:15:57,759 you can run my next video 426 00:16:02,470 --> 00:16:00,639 we see the changes in mars 427 00:16:05,110 --> 00:16:02,480 however how did these changes come from 428 00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:05,120 the solar wind well the and why did they 429 00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:06,160 affect the earth what are the 430 00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:08,560 differences the earth in fact is 431 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:11,199 protected by a magnetic cocoon we call 432 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:12,720 the magnetosphere 433 00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:14,560 however mars 434 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:16,079 does not have a significant magnetic 435 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:18,880 field so this absence of the protection 436 00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:21,040 allows the supersonic solar wind to 437 00:16:24,710 --> 00:16:23,519 interact directly with the martian upper 438 00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:24,720 atmosphere 439 00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:28,480 water from the planet as you see here in 440 00:16:32,470 --> 00:16:30,560 this model based on new observations 441 00:16:34,949 --> 00:16:32,480 from maven in fact 442 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:34,959 and so we see that the interaction of 443 00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:37,040 solar wind directly affects the life 444 00:16:40,470 --> 00:16:38,959 cycle of water 445 00:16:41,590 --> 00:16:40,480 you can 446 00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:41,600 comets 447 00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:43,759 the next part of distributing water from 448 00:16:48,629 --> 00:16:46,639 our solar system these carry ingredients 449 00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,639 vital to life as we know it 450 00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:50,560 as the sun heats comets the water and 451 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:52,160 dust and the chemicals 452 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:54,480 scatter and are distributed to the water 453 00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:56,560 throughout our solar system 454 00:17:01,910 --> 00:16:58,560 certainly this occurs through distant 455 00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:01,920 stars and planets around other systems 456 00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:04,160 in my next video 457 00:17:07,990 --> 00:17:06,079 we see actual observations from our 458 00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:08,000 stereo spacecraft 459 00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:10,799 uh this shows the solar wind interacting 460 00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:12,720 with two there's actually two comets in 461 00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:15,439 this uh video one comet ison and the 462 00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:18,799 other comet enki and we see their 463 00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:21,280 tails being distributed again blowing 464 00:17:24,309 --> 00:17:23,360 water and dust throughout the solar 465 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:24,319 system 466 00:17:28,069 --> 00:17:26,160 in this video actually the sun is off to 467 00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:28,079 the right and you get a very interesting 468 00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:29,520 perspective of 469 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:31,520 relative positions of mercury mercury 470 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:33,600 and earth in fact because stereo 471 00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:35,520 spacecraft are on the far side of the 472 00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:37,760 sun from us looking back 473 00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:40,160 at this 474 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:41,840 so we've talked about the solar wind 475 00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:43,120 where does this come from we know it 476 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:44,400 comes from the sun but how is it 477 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:47,039 accelerated how is it driven 478 00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:50,720 where did the cme start in my next video 479 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:52,880 you'll see in 2018 480 00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:55,039 nasa will launch the solar pro plus 481 00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:56,160 mission 482 00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:59,120 this will for the first time fly into 483 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:01,039 the sun's 484 00:18:05,590 --> 00:18:03,280 direct lower atmosphere 485 00:18:07,350 --> 00:18:05,600 traveling closer than four million miles 486 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:07,360 within the solar surface 487 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:10,400 this historic mission will revolutionize 488 00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:12,840 our understanding of the sun's 489 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,280 atmosphere and how it's heated and how 490 00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:17,520 the solar wind is accelerated 491 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:18,720 um 492 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:20,480 in the video you see that the solar 493 00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:22,480 probe plus spacecraft and its orbit 494 00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:25,200 through the inner part of the solar wind 495 00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:27,440 where it's being accelerated 496 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:29,600 close to the sun 497 00:18:33,430 --> 00:18:31,120 here we'll understand the magnetic 498 00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:33,440 fields the particles how they're 499 00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:35,120 accelerated and 500 00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:37,120 again what drives this process of 501 00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:39,039 distributing water throughout the solar 502 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:40,480 system 503 00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:42,400 once we do this this will help us 504 00:18:47,590 --> 00:18:44,880 understand our star what powers these 505 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:47,600 storms and again looking at 506 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:48,960 as an analog 507 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:52,880 for solar systems throughout our galaxy 508 00:18:57,909 --> 00:18:54,480 in my last video 509 00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:57,919 you'll see a large exoplanet 510 00:19:00,390 --> 00:18:58,799 here 511 00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:00,400 this is weathering the impacts of a 512 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:03,120 stellar storm these are car these storms 513 00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:05,679 occur through stars everywhere 514 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:07,280 in this animation which is actually 515 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:08,400 based on 516 00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:09,760 observations 517 00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:11,200 we see the 518 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:12,640 material from the planet's upper 519 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:14,880 atmosphere being driven away from this 520 00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:17,600 solar stellar storm 521 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:21,120 exceeds exceeding 300 000 miles per hour 522 00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:22,400 and now 523 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:24,240 to paul will provide details of these 524 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:25,840 other stars and the habitability of 525 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:28,559 planets elsewhere thanks 526 00:19:32,549 --> 00:19:30,480 so jim and jeff have told you about 527 00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:32,559 habitability and water in our own solar 528 00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:34,080 system and the impact on the 529 00:19:38,549 --> 00:19:36,960 habitability of planets from the sun 530 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:38,559 and so i'm going to talk to you about 531 00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:41,520 habitability in the rest of the galaxy 532 00:19:46,470 --> 00:19:44,000 looking beyond our solar system we see 533 00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:46,480 lots of water the galaxy is also a soggy 534 00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:47,520 place 535 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:49,520 we can see water in the interstellar 536 00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:51,520 clouds from which planetary systems and 537 00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:54,559 stellar systems form we can see water in 538 00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:56,240 the disks of debris that are going to 539 00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:57,919 become planetary systems around other 540 00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:00,720 stars and we can even see comets being 541 00:20:05,909 --> 00:20:03,360 dissipated in other solar systems as the 542 00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:05,919 thoughts as that star evaporates them 543 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:07,440 but the place that we're most interested 544 00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,240 in looking is in at worlds in the 545 00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:12,880 habitable zones around pla stars other 546 00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:15,360 than our sun so my first graphic is a 547 00:20:18,630 --> 00:20:16,720 little illustration of what the 548 00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:18,640 habitable zone means 549 00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:20,320 uh it's 550 00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:22,720 excuse me planets which are too close to 551 00:20:26,950 --> 00:20:25,280 the star are too hot for liquid water to 552 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:26,960 exist on the surface 553 00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:29,600 and planets which are beyond the snow 554 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:31,840 line are too cold for liquid water to 555 00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:34,320 exist on the surface but planets in this 556 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:37,039 habitable zone uh have water that can 557 00:20:40,149 --> 00:20:38,480 exist liquid on the surface we're 558 00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:40,159 looking for rocky planets that have 559 00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:42,640 surfaces that could hold water this 560 00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:44,159 would be the habitable zone and the only 561 00:20:49,909 --> 00:20:46,960 place we know of where life like life on 562 00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:53,029 20 years ago this year the first planet 563 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:55,280 around another star or exoplanet was 564 00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:57,280 discovered a planet was discovered 565 00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:01,360 around the star 51 pegasi in 1995 566 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:04,159 thanks to nasa's kepler space telescope 567 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:06,799 which was launched six years ago we now 568 00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:09,760 know of over 5 000 worlds around other 569 00:21:14,070 --> 00:21:11,440 stars 570 00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:14,080 we now know that just about every star 571 00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:17,039 in the galaxy has planets around them 572 00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:20,559 probably multiple planets around them 573 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:22,799 the most common size planets that we've 574 00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,360 seen around other stars are planets that 575 00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:27,520 are between the size of the earth and 576 00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,000 neptune in our own solar system now the 577 00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:32,640 earth has a rock is a rocky planet and 578 00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:36,159 neptune is a uh icy giant without a 579 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,400 solid surface and the dividing line 580 00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:40,799 between them is uh somewhere around 581 00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:43,120 twice the size of the earth so we're 582 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,600 very interested in finding planets that 583 00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,280 are between one and two times the size 584 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:49,039 of the earth around other stars in the 585 00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:50,720 habitable zone 586 00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:53,760 in my next graphic i show you the very 587 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:56,080 few that we've discovered so far using 588 00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:58,400 the kepler space telescope 589 00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:00,720 about a half a dozen or more rocky 590 00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:02,240 planets in the habitable zone of their 591 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:03,280 stars 592 00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:05,919 and planets like these are the prime 593 00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:08,480 locations where we would like to be able 594 00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:10,320 someday to look for evidence of 595 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,440 habitability on these planets 596 00:22:16,950 --> 00:22:15,280 the question is how do we look for the 597 00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:16,960 oh one more thing before i move on to 598 00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:17,919 that 599 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,280 in the year 2017 nasa will be launching 600 00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:23,200 the transiting exoplanet survey 601 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,960 satellite or tess 602 00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:27,360 and tess is going to find 603 00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:29,760 rocky planets in the habitable zones 604 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,159 around the nearest stars to the earth 605 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:34,320 nearest stars to the sun 606 00:22:38,789 --> 00:22:36,880 it will be finding many dozens of these 607 00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:38,799 and because these will be planets around 608 00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:41,360 the nearest stars they will be the prime 609 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:43,520 planets that will want to follow up and 610 00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:46,000 look for signs of habitability but but 611 00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:47,360 how do we look for those signs of 612 00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,159 habitability well right now 613 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:52,799 what we do is we wait until the planet 614 00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:54,960 passes in front of the star 615 00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:57,520 and watch the star's light filter 616 00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:59,679 through the planet's atmosphere 617 00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:01,200 this method is called transit 618 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,919 spectroscopy and when the starlight 619 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:06,240 filters through the planet's atmosphere 620 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,600 the atmosphere absorbs some of the light 621 00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:11,120 and the different molecules in the 622 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:14,320 atmosphere absorb different uh colors of 623 00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,000 light from the star 624 00:23:20,070 --> 00:23:17,760 and this these fingerprints have 625 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:20,080 absorbed light are the indicators of 626 00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:22,000 exactly what kind of molecule is in the 627 00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:24,320 planet's atmosphere so we could detect 628 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:27,679 water carbon dioxide methane and other 629 00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:34,070 so if you look at my next graphic these 630 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:35,679 are some of the kinds of planets that 631 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:37,760 we're trying to use this transit 632 00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:39,760 spectroscopy on 633 00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:41,760 we've been successful at using this 634 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,720 method 635 00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:44,960 with two of nasa's space telescopes as 636 00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:47,039 john mentioned the hubble space 637 00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,720 telescope and the spitzer space 638 00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:51,279 telescope have both been able to use 639 00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:54,400 transit spectroscopy to look at the 640 00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:57,200 atmospheres of gas giant planets that 641 00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:00,000 are very close to their stars in the hot 642 00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,559 zone of their stars because these are 643 00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:04,480 the planets that have the most light 644 00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,799 filtering through them and also are the 645 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:08,799 bright and around the brightest stars so 646 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,480 we get enough signal 647 00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:12,480 it'll take the next generation of space 648 00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:14,640 telescopes for us to be able to extend 649 00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:17,120 this methodology to ocean planets 650 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,360 smaller than the gas giants 651 00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,760 and in uh 2018 we'll be launching the 652 00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:24,480 james webb space telescope and one of 653 00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:26,880 the scientific investigations that it 654 00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:29,440 will be capable of uh of doing for us 655 00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:31,600 will be doing transit spectroscopy 656 00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:34,240 investigating the atmospheres of some of 657 00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:41,669 around the nearby plant stars the 658 00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,080 planets that tess discovers and looking 659 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:46,559 for the signatures of 660 00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:47,360 of 661 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:51,440 habitability gases in those atmospheres 662 00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:53,919 but eventually we need to develop new 663 00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:57,360 techniques for studying the atmospheres 664 00:25:02,549 --> 00:24:59,600 of rocky planets in the habitable zones 665 00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:02,559 of their stars now these planets are 666 00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:04,960 going to be smaller 667 00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:06,799 than the ones we're studying so far 668 00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,480 which makes them fainter but they're 669 00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,480 also going to be further away from the 670 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:12,159 star because they have to be in the 671 00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:14,159 cooler habitable zone than the hot zones 672 00:25:17,110 --> 00:25:15,679 we're looking at now that means they're 673 00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,120 very very faint 674 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:19,279 and we're going to have to use a new 675 00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:20,480 technique 676 00:25:25,269 --> 00:25:22,880 direct imaging in order to be able to 677 00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:25,279 measure their atmospheres so my next 678 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:27,520 graphic is a simulation of what's such 679 00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,640 an image might look like through a 680 00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,799 future space telescope one that nasa is 681 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:34,799 currently studying called the wide field 682 00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,679 infrared survey telescope or wfirst 683 00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,520 equipped with a special kind of camera 684 00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:41,279 called a coronagraph 685 00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:42,960 the coronagraph 686 00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:45,919 has a is capable of blocking out the 687 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,640 star the light from the star and 688 00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,480 revealing the light from the planets 689 00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:52,559 surrounding that star these planets are 690 00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:54,320 over a billion times fainter than the 691 00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:56,799 star so this is a very tricky optical 692 00:26:01,350 --> 00:25:59,360 problem but in this simulation the 693 00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:01,360 star's light has been constrained to 694 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:03,679 inside the red circle and it's been 695 00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,360 blocked out and you'll see that in the 696 00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:07,840 upper left a planet has been revealed 697 00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:09,919 which would be a large jupiter-sized gas 698 00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,320 giant and in the lower right just 699 00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,039 outside the red circle you can see a 700 00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:17,039 earth-sized planet has been revealed in 701 00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,559 this simulation 702 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,799 and if this telescope works correctly 703 00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:22,320 and the right planets are around the 704 00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:25,120 nearby stars we would be able to look at 705 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:28,000 the light directly from these planets 706 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,840 and investigate 707 00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,600 what kind of gases are in their 708 00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:33,600 atmospheres and are giving us the 709 00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,960 spectra we look at so not only is nasa 710 00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,480 studying 711 00:26:42,630 --> 00:26:40,320 water and habitability in our solar 712 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,640 system but we're also starting to look 713 00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,480 for water and habitability 714 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:46,640 on planets around other stars 715 00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:48,960 and we're building the capabilities 716 00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:50,799 we'll need to be able to look for actual 717 00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:53,679 habitable rocky worlds around stars 718 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,360 other than our own sun 719 00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:57,760 ellen 720 00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:58,720 you know obviously what we've been 721 00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:01,360 talking about here today is water why is 722 00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:03,200 water so important we're looking for 723 00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:05,279 water i want to bring you back to the 724 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,120 earth for a minute now think about the 725 00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:09,279 fact the earth formed about 4.6 billion 726 00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:10,480 years ago 727 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,159 evolved here on earth in the oceans and 728 00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:18,480 for billions of years it remained in the 729 00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:19,679 oceans 730 00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:21,279 so that's certainly one of the things 731 00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:23,600 that really drives us to look for these 732 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:25,679 watery worlds either in our own solar 733 00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:28,240 system or beyond our solar system but 734 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,840 you know it's even more than it's just 735 00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:31,600 the experience of what we understand 736 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:33,279 here from the earth it's the fact that 737 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:34,960 water the water molecule has these 738 00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:37,520 really unique properties we think it's a 739 00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:40,000 solvent it moves things around it has 740 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:41,760 really unique properties that we think 741 00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:43,360 are really critical to the formation of 742 00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:46,000 life not just here on earth but on other 743 00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:48,799 bodies in the solar system now when you 744 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,080 look at the bodies that we've been 745 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:52,080 talking about here that jim green and 746 00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:53,600 jeff and and paul hertz were talking 747 00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:55,520 about that you see in this graphic you 748 00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:57,600 know mars there in the in the top center 749 00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:00,559 so critical we think to to the fact to 750 00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:02,320 the search for life because of the fact 751 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:04,000 that water was stable 752 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:06,320 as jim was saying for possibly a billion 753 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:08,000 years on the surface 754 00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:09,600 so again that goes back to what we know 755 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:11,279 from our experience here on earth we 756 00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:13,520 think that long period of time is 757 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:15,679 necessary for life to maybe get more 758 00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:17,200 complex 759 00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:18,799 so when we talk about trying to find 760 00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:22,159 life on mars or maybe life on europa or 761 00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:24,000 on other moons of the solar system like 762 00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:25,600 enceladus that was at the bottom of the 763 00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,640 graphic that i showed a minute ago 764 00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:30,640 we're not talking about little green men 765 00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:33,360 we're more talking about little microbes 766 00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:34,720 so this is going to be life that's going 767 00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:36,880 to be a little bit hard to find 768 00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:39,120 in our own solar system 769 00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,640 and so when we think about that we start 770 00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:42,159 thinking how are we going to find it 771 00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,760 let's think about mars we've been 772 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,440 sending these spacecraft they have very 773 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,360 sophisticated instruments so what do we 774 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,679 look for we look for the building blocks 775 00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:51,760 of life we look for organic molecules 776 00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,159 that might tell us that some process is 777 00:28:58,230 --> 00:28:55,919 going on we look for something 778 00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:58,240 scientists call disequilibrium we look 779 00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,159 for things out of balance is there 780 00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,240 something that seems to be consuming 781 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:04,080 something and giving something else off 782 00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,440 so those are the things we look for 783 00:29:09,909 --> 00:29:07,200 scientifically 784 00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:09,919 but ultimately i'm a field geologist i 785 00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:12,000 go out and break open rocks and look for 786 00:29:16,230 --> 00:29:14,240 fossils those are hard to find 787 00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:16,240 so i have a bias that it's eventually 788 00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:18,399 going to take humans on the surface of 789 00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:20,799 mars field geologists astrobiologists 790 00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:21,919 chemists 791 00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:24,159 actually out there looking for that good 792 00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:26,080 evidence of life that we can bring back 793 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:27,919 to earth for all the scientists to argue 794 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:30,480 about and say is this life is it not how 795 00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:32,480 do those cells compare to cells here on 796 00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,440 earth 797 00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:35,679 do these microbes that formed on another 798 00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:38,240 planet do they have rna or dna like life 799 00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,679 has here on earth these are the 800 00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:41,840 questions that ultimately i think it's 801 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,000 going to take our astrobiologists on the 802 00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,240 surface of mars to answer 803 00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,320 so that's why nasa is so focused on our 804 00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:50,000 journey to mars 805 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,000 and what are we doing to accomplish that 806 00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:54,399 well for one thing uh as john and jim 807 00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:55,520 green were talking about we have a 808 00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,360 healthy program of studying the surface 809 00:30:03,269 --> 00:29:59,760 of mars right now with spacecraft like 810 00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:03,279 maven with our curiosity rover in 2020 811 00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,960 we're going to send a new rover to mars 812 00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,399 that's going to move us even further 813 00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:08,320 forward towards understanding mars's 814 00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:10,720 habitability and performing some initial 815 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:12,320 experiments to get us ready to send 816 00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,840 humans to mars 817 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:15,279 we're working every day up on the 818 00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:16,960 international space station with our 819 00:30:20,789 --> 00:30:19,120 astronauts to understand the long-term 820 00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,799 effects of space flight on human health 821 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:23,360 so we can get astronauts to mars safely 822 00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,880 and return them back here to earth 823 00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,880 safely and that's what the one-year 824 00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:28,480 increment what scott kelly and mikhail 825 00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,399 kornienko is all about 826 00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:32,159 and the twin study that we just started 827 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:34,000 uh conducting a few weeks ago with the 828 00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:35,440 successful launch up to the 829 00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:37,520 international space station it's why 830 00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:38,799 we're doing commercial crew in 831 00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,799 commercial cargo it's why we're 832 00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,559 developing the space launch system our 833 00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:44,480 new rocket that will move humans out 834 00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:46,399 beyond low earth orbit and the orion 835 00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,760 capsule which we just tested 836 00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:49,600 successfully in december 837 00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,679 so we have a whole program to move us 838 00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,600 forward on this journey to mars because 839 00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:55,600 again if we come back to the scientific 840 00:30:59,590 --> 00:30:58,000 question are we alone 841 00:31:02,310 --> 00:30:59,600 getting astronauts to the surface of 842 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:02,320 mars to help answer that question 843 00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,240 understanding the sun and its behavior 844 00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:06,960 and its effects on life here on earth 845 00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:09,039 but also helping us use that information 846 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:11,120 to understand the potential for life on 847 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:13,120 worlds around other planets 848 00:31:18,149 --> 00:31:15,840 using our great telescopes uh like 849 00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:18,159 hubble and in the future james the james 850 00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:20,720 webb space telescope to start using the 851 00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:22,159 information we're gaining from 852 00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,320 understanding life here in our own solar 853 00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:26,640 system to understand 854 00:31:30,149 --> 00:31:28,559 beyond our solar system 855 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,159 thank you 856 00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:33,600 something a little different here 857 00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:36,000 normally i'm up here and we're doing a 858 00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,440 press conference and the science mission 859 00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:39,120 directorate is always doing press 860 00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:40,480 conference because they always are 861 00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:41,919 making great news 862 00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,200 um we're gonna obviously go to the media 863 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:47,600 ask questions here and on the phone line 864 00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:50,320 and social media there's a lot of buzz 865 00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:51,440 out there 866 00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,080 send in your questions to hashtag ask 867 00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,880 nasa but i see a lot of folks we have a 868 00:32:01,990 --> 00:31:59,279 very diverse audience here 869 00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:02,000 this subject affects every one of you in 870 00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:04,799 this room the folks hearing my voice 871 00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,880 watching nasa television 872 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:08,880 and on our website and of course social 873 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:11,200 media so we're going to transition if 874 00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,480 you have a question just wait for the 875 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,320 mic we're going to start here we're 876 00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:15,919 going to go to the phone lines and we're 877 00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:19,039 going to go to social media so 878 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:20,799 you can if we can get this gentleman and 879 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:27,430 hi randy shostak reporter with eos at 880 00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,960 the american geophysical union thanks 881 00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,720 very much for doing this briefing 882 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:32,080 i wanted to ask 883 00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,559 each of you what surprises you the most 884 00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,320 in the recent studies and findings about 885 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:38,240 the search for water inhabitable planets 886 00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:40,720 and what are you looking forward to 887 00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:43,279 what most excites you uh in the coming 888 00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:49,669 well i think that you know 889 00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:51,120 some scientists 890 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:52,960 would have predicted and have predicted 891 00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:56,480 plumes on europa but i think the uh 892 00:33:00,389 --> 00:32:58,080 serendipity that we are planning a 893 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,399 mission to europa and that hubble has 894 00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:02,640 observed these putative plumes gives us 895 00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:04,799 an opportunity for the first time to not 896 00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:08,000 only try and understand the structure of 897 00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:10,480 europa as an icy moon you know the 898 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,320 thickness of the crust the composition 899 00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:14,880 of the surface you know the density you 900 00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:16,720 know the gravity field all the things 901 00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,240 that we've done previously in our 902 00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:20,159 orbiting missions but it has the 903 00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,200 potential to allow us actually 904 00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,679 to interrogate the plume and see if we 905 00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:27,679 see any signs of what might be 906 00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:30,480 subsurface life on an ocean 907 00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:32,960 on europa it's an opportunity that we're 908 00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:35,279 exploring i think you know that's going 909 00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:37,440 to be really fantastic to be able to do 910 00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:39,679 that but that it's not just europa that 911 00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:41,840 potentially we have ganymede and we do 912 00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:45,519 see plumes on enceladus around uh 913 00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,200 saturn that cassini has been 914 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:48,960 interrogating and has seen very 915 00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,880 intriguing signs and and that's 916 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:52,080 something you might ask ellen moore 917 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:55,760 about as a cassini investigator 918 00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:58,480 so from my perspective i think our 919 00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:00,240 science community is making enormous 920 00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:02,960 progress in various ways that i couldn't 921 00:34:07,029 --> 00:34:05,039 even conceive of and that might be 922 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:07,039 because i've scared the heck out of them 923 00:34:11,030 --> 00:34:08,879 in the sense that i've said i'm planning 924 00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:11,040 to be the director of planetary science 925 00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,639 when we discover life in the solar 926 00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:14,720 system so they better get busy 927 00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,119 and and as i said uh 928 00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,679 it's just such an exciting time for us 929 00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,599 going out to europa building the 930 00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:23,200 building the spacecraft we need to do 931 00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:24,000 that 932 00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:25,040 mars 933 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:26,800 in terms of being able to look at that 934 00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:30,800 geological record go back with a in 2020 935 00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:33,119 into a what we now can recognize our 936 00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:36,240 habitable past habitable regions on mars 937 00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:38,960 really interrogate a another region like 938 00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:41,200 curiosity is man i don't know what we're 939 00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:43,359 gonna find there but we you know we're 940 00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:45,200 gonna save the geological record for 941 00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,520 potential return back to the earth 942 00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:49,440 so we're making these huge strides along 943 00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:52,000 the way and i i really think and i 944 00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:54,159 should bet paul this that we'll find 945 00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:56,639 life in the solar system before we find 946 00:35:04,550 --> 00:34:59,359 it uh in in exoplanets but we'll find it 947 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:06,790 okay um before i see if we have any 948 00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:08,320 other questions or honestly and then 949 00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:10,240 we're going to go to social media 950 00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,000 we have uh some folks i want to 951 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:13,680 recognize and be honest dr green's 952 00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:15,040 talking about getting busy these folks 953 00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:16,960 are getting busy 954 00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:20,400 every day first the new program director 955 00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:23,119 for the james webb space telescope dr 956 00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:24,880 eric smith 957 00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:27,440 we all know we celebrate 25 years of 958 00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:30,880 hubble you ain't seen nothing yet after 959 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:33,280 james webb space telescope gets up there 960 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:35,839 thank you dr smith and behind dr smith 961 00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:38,400 is dr mary voltek 962 00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,640 the director of astrobiology and she's 963 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:42,320 getting busy because she's got some 964 00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:44,320 conferences coming up with these folks 965 00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:47,440 are getting together and as jim said 966 00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:49,440 things are moving to answer these 967 00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,599 questions and they're moving fast any 968 00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:54,160 questions from our audience we have 969 00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:55,599 yes sir 970 00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:58,079 please identify yourself and thank you 971 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,400 very much my name is kai torstulaine i'm 972 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:02,800 from rovio entertainment makers of angry 973 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:05,359 birds and perhaps more importantly angry 974 00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:06,720 birds space 975 00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:07,680 welcome 976 00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:08,640 um 977 00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:11,359 i have a question for you regarding 978 00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,599 today's announcement so many interesting 979 00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:15,520 advances 980 00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,200 what would be 981 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,760 perhaps the single most exciting thing 982 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,560 that you would like me to take back 983 00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:24,480 to the entertainment and to the 984 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:29,270 you know when i go out and talk to 985 00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:31,040 student audiences you know i always tell 986 00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:33,119 them i'm almost jealous of them because 987 00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:36,079 to me they're living in a world in which 988 00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:37,359 you know maybe i'm a little slightly 989 00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:39,440 less optimistic than jim that within all 990 00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:40,800 of our lifetime though we're going to 991 00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:42,560 understand that there is life on other 992 00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:43,920 bodies in the solar system we're going 993 00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:45,760 to understand the implications of that 994 00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:47,760 for evolution of life here on earth 995 00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:49,520 we're going to find planets around other 996 00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:52,000 stars that we can say we see potential 997 00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,520 signs of habitability in their 998 00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,280 atmospheres that's all going to happen 999 00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,680 in the next 10 to 20 years how exciting 1000 00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:59,680 is that we're on the verge of things 1001 00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:01,280 that people have wondered about for 1002 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:04,400 millennia are we alone and here we are 1003 00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:07,200 on the verge of finding that out and i 1004 00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:08,880 tell the kids you better study science 1005 00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,960 and math and engineering you better be 1006 00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:12,720 practicing your computer skills on angry 1007 00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,680 birds because we're on the verge 1008 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:17,440 and we need you guys to study because 1009 00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,280 you're going to have so much work to do 1010 00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:21,200 studying these planets these potentially 1011 00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,800 habitable worlds so you better get to 1012 00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:23,920 work because we're going to need you to 1013 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:26,800 be our scientists of the future 1014 00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:27,680 good 1015 00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:29,440 any other questions before we go to 1016 00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:31,200 social media yes 1017 00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:34,000 the gentleman here 1018 00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:40,710 uh mike helton 1019 00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,760 is there any consideration uh by nasa to 1020 00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:45,599 take a look at these rocky planets that 1021 00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,599 you are discovering with other 1022 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:49,599 instruments like radio telescopes to 1023 00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:50,400 maybe 1024 00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:52,960 pick up any kind of radio signals from 1025 00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:55,040 them assuming that they might be some 1026 00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:57,359 advanced system like we have 1027 00:38:02,829 --> 00:38:00,079 and we're after all sending out 1028 00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:02,839 radio signals outside of our solar 1029 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:06,640 system so uh nasa doesn't operate the 1030 00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:09,280 radio telescopes uh that are that are 1031 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:11,920 used but i know that the operators of 1032 00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,240 those telescopes think very carefully 1033 00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:16,480 about whether that is a useful 1034 00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:19,440 investigation to do 1035 00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:22,000 the what the particular rocky planets 1036 00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,040 that kepler has found are very far away 1037 00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:27,040 and so i haven't done the calculations 1038 00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,760 to know if if radio signals analogous to 1039 00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:31,200 the ones that the earth gives off would 1040 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,119 be detectable with today's radio 1041 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,960 telescopes but that would be the the 1042 00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:36,720 right calculation to do before one 1043 00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:38,079 decided to undertake such an 1044 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,320 investigation 1045 00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,960 now there actually are some observations 1046 00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:44,640 in our solar system that might help 1047 00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:47,359 inform what we might do next and that is 1048 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:48,400 we know 1049 00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:50,880 that planets that have magnetic fields 1050 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,200 and they're bathed in the solar wind 1051 00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:55,839 that interaction actually produces radio 1052 00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:58,880 emissions above these aurora that occur 1053 00:39:03,990 --> 00:39:01,520 now that that may not tell us that that 1054 00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,000 planet is habitable so much as it does 1055 00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,320 it tells us about the magnetic field but 1056 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,640 we're finding it when we look at mars 1057 00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,480 which did have a magnetic field at one 1058 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,480 time and it's passed and now it doesn't 1059 00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,320 and now its atmosphere has been stripped 1060 00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:16,480 away there might be something there that 1061 00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:18,400 we ought to continue to do research on 1062 00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:21,599 but radio telescopes could be used to to 1063 00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:23,760 look for planets that have magnetic 1064 00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,079 fields and generate these radio waves 1065 00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:29,440 from natural and natural ways 1066 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:32,000 okay let's uh switch gears and uh see 1067 00:39:35,030 --> 00:39:32,880 what's 1068 00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:35,040 going on on social media my colleague 1069 00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:36,640 felicia chao 1070 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:39,280 what's the conversation like out there 1071 00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:40,800 well dwayne um there are a bunch of 1072 00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:42,800 social media questions on nasa's search 1073 00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:45,440 for life uh daniel robinson from twitter 1074 00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:47,440 asked do you think life could have 1075 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:49,440 evolved out there that would have been 1076 00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:51,599 hostile to what we understand such as 1077 00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,670 who wants to take that 1078 00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,280 you know obviously we're very biased by 1079 00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,359 what we understand of life here on earth 1080 00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,359 and and pushing the limits to that what 1081 00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:05,599 the limits to life are is something that 1082 00:40:09,829 --> 00:40:07,599 we have scientists looking at you know 1083 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:09,839 that that question but but certainly the 1084 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,760 basis that we understand for life 1085 00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,200 carbon-based life 1086 00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,599 um we know those building blocks are not 1087 00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:17,359 only all over our solar system but we 1088 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:18,960 know they're all over our galaxy they're 1089 00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:21,040 all over the universe so given that the 1090 00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:22,640 right building blocks are out there 1091 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,560 given that there's water out there 1092 00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,640 that's what makes us really lean towards 1093 00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:28,640 looking for life like it is here on 1094 00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:30,160 earth but certainly even in our own 1095 00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:31,760 solar system when we look at a place 1096 00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:33,680 like titan that doesn't have liquid 1097 00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:36,079 water but it has seas of liquid methane 1098 00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:37,520 and ethane 1099 00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:39,520 we've got scientists who suggest maybe 1100 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:41,119 you could form some sort of cell 1101 00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:44,160 membranes even on on titan um 1102 00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,839 so maybe in our own solar system we'll 1103 00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:47,280 be able to push the limits of this 1104 00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:49,760 theory already 1105 00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:50,839 thank you 1106 00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:53,839 um uh related to that what role does 1107 00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:56,000 gravity of a planet play in the chances 1108 00:41:03,109 --> 00:40:58,960 of it being habitable 1109 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:04,550 i guess the follow-up question to that 1110 00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,640 um from lassi rooney would be is 1111 00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:09,040 presence of water or man or magnetic 1112 00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:11,280 field more important for life and the 1113 00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,000 priority and optimism for mars europa 1114 00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:16,880 versus ganymede 1115 00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,800 well as i mentioned a little bit earlier 1116 00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,040 the the study of the magnetic field and 1117 00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:24,800 its interaction with the solar wind is 1118 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,560 such an important element for us to 1119 00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:28,480 understand how that might have protected 1120 00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,280 the earth over millennia and we're doing 1121 00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:33,599 that by having maven at mars and looking 1122 00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,839 at how mars which no longer has its 1123 00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,319 magnetic field and how its atmosphere is 1124 00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:40,560 being stripped away so i think we're 1125 00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:42,480 recognizing now 1126 00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:45,440 how complicated but yet connected 1127 00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:47,680 the kinds of phenomena 1128 00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:50,240 like gravity like like rocky bodies like 1129 00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:51,760 magnetic fields 1130 00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,400 and like water is playing in in 1131 00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:56,240 developing an environment 1132 00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:57,440 for life 1133 00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:58,720 and then 1134 00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:01,040 also maintaining it for long periods of 1135 00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:03,359 time you know we're at a time when it's 1136 00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:05,599 just a snapshot 1137 00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:08,480 of the evolution of our solar system 1138 00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:10,800 and and we need to think about times in 1139 00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,000 the past when life could have started 1140 00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,480 and where they could have started uh 1141 00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:19,200 when we look at mars and today we're 1142 00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:21,440 actually going back in time 1143 00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,880 in these regions 1144 00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:25,359 where it did have water we're going back 1145 00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:28,079 and perhaps there's the moment when life 1146 00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,640 actually started on mars and maybe we'll 1147 00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:32,960 find that environment and then we'll 1148 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,000 understand a lot about life's origin 1149 00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,160 and put it in the context of how the 1150 00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,560 solar system evolves 1151 00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:41,839 i think the other part of the question 1152 00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:44,160 paul answered earlier which is at the 1153 00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:46,800 large scale when a rocky planet gets 1154 00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:48,560 more than about twice the size of the 1155 00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:50,240 earth 1156 00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:51,839 and if it's a rocky planet so it has 1157 00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:54,160 that density it starts to accrete more 1158 00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:56,160 gas when it's forming and ends up like a 1159 00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:57,440 neptune 1160 00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:58,640 frozen 1161 00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,000 gas world 1162 00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,640 and so that probably sets a limit 1163 00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:04,560 to life on a planet that's much larger 1164 00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:07,200 than a couple of times or 1165 00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,560 thank you 1166 00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:09,839 um 1167 00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:11,680 so dr newmark pointed out that the 1168 00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,119 importance of having a magnetic field 1169 00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:17,280 lady signet asks is there a way to 1170 00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:20,880 create a synthetic magnosphere 1171 00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:26,710 i'm not really sure if you if you need 1172 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:29,680 the synthetic for the long term for for 1173 00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:32,800 life again it's important but as as jim 1174 00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:36,400 was was mentioning it's the evolution 1175 00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:39,280 it's the interaction of course with your 1176 00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,640 our son or a local star and that planet 1177 00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:44,480 over a long period of time is what we're 1178 00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:47,280 looking for and how that evolves not 1179 00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,560 sort of a 1180 00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,119 short-term uh magnetic field that 1181 00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:53,280 protects current life it's really the 1182 00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:55,280 long-term evolution of life 1183 00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:58,160 that this becomes important for 1184 00:44:01,990 --> 00:43:59,839 now that said we have done studies of 1185 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:02,000 creating relatively small magnetic 1186 00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:05,119 bubbles around spacecraft for future 1187 00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,960 interplanetary and maybe someday future 1188 00:44:11,990 --> 00:44:09,040 interstellar travelers to have their own 1189 00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:12,000 protective magnetic field 1190 00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:14,880 so felicia before we go uh to social 1191 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:16,079 media i want to 1192 00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:17,200 i'll tell you where you're here i'm 1193 00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,440 hearing i'm being told we have a lot of 1194 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:21,200 questions coming in 1195 00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:23,280 i tell my tv audience and the folks on 1196 00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:24,560 social media we're not going to be able 1197 00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,680 to get to 1198 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,599 many of them but send those questions in 1199 00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:30,000 hashtag ask nasa we'll get those 1200 00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:31,680 answered as soon as we can i also want 1201 00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:33,280 to tell our panelists that i'm going to 1202 00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:34,800 like to close 1203 00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:35,599 with 1204 00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:37,520 each one of you giving your personal 1205 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,960 views 1206 00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,960 and maybe a crystal ball or predictions 1207 00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:42,560 however you want to do it but the 1208 00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:45,040 personal human being personal views of 1209 00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,440 how close are we what does this mean it 1210 00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:49,440 with all of these assets 1211 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:51,760 what we're finding how close are we 1212 00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:53,760 are we going to answer the question 1213 00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:54,720 sooner 1214 00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:56,720 than we think so think about that so 1215 00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,640 let's take a one more question from 1216 00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:00,079 social media and we're going to wrap it 1217 00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:03,760 up okay great um here's some questions 1218 00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,000 mostly around exoplanets so what is 1219 00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,240 nasa's current definition of a habitable 1220 00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:10,560 zone and what are the requirements for 1221 00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:12,560 the planet to be habitable 1222 00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,560 um and what are uh 1223 00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:16,560 all the conditions required 1224 00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:17,599 for 1225 00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,040 we know it 1226 00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,400 so uh habitable zone is a fuzzy concept 1227 00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:26,960 and scientists argue a lot about what 1228 00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:29,599 the boundaries of the habitable zone are 1229 00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,920 the general ideas exactly what i said 1230 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:33,680 earlier it's that 1231 00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,160 region of space around a star where one 1232 00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:38,640 would expect to find liquid water on the 1233 00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:40,960 surface but as we can see in our own 1234 00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:43,599 solar system both venus and mars 1235 00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,640 arguably fall within that definition of 1236 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,160 a habitable zone and neither one of them 1237 00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:50,480 currently have liquid water on their 1238 00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,680 surface and so 1239 00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,280 it matters what the atmosphere of the 1240 00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:54,960 planet is it matters whether it has a 1241 00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:57,680 magnetic field and probably lots of 1242 00:46:01,750 --> 00:45:59,359 other things matter that scientists are 1243 00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:01,760 arguing about so you can't write down a 1244 00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:04,400 formula for it um but you know it when 1245 00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,349 okay let's um we i'm told that we have 1246 00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:12,720 uh we're gonna go to the phone lines and 1247 00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,400 then i'm gonna bring it back on stage 1248 00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,720 for the person reviews before we wrap up 1249 00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,960 and again i um for social media we're 1250 00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:20,560 gonna answer your questions keep sending 1251 00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,440 in 1252 00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:23,520 hashtag ask nasa let's go to the phone 1253 00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:28,640 lines uh mike wall i believe are you on 1254 00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:30,560 oh yeah i'm i'm here this is mike wahl 1255 00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:32,240 from space.com 1256 00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,000 um hi this 1257 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:36,480 like this one is probably for um by the 1258 00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:38,240 doctor stofan you were mentioning having 1259 00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:40,160 astrobiologists on the surface of mars 1260 00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:41,599 could you mention like a little bit 1261 00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:43,520 about what you think i think is the role 1262 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:45,760 for sample return 1263 00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,440 like in the search for 1264 00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:48,960 like fractional life on mars where do 1265 00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,200 you see that that sort of fitting in to 1266 00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:53,280 to the strander pattern 1267 00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,640 you know i think sample return that's a 1268 00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:56,160 great question sample return i think is 1269 00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,920 important for a couple different reasons 1270 00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:59,520 for one thing i personally think that 1271 00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,359 that demonstrating that that round trip 1272 00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:03,280 to mars is is something we would want to 1273 00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:04,000 do 1274 00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,760 um potentially when we're thinking about 1275 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,119 sending humans obviously they've got to 1276 00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:09,760 get there they've got to get back um so 1277 00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:11,359 practicing getting down to the surface 1278 00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:13,680 of mars getting off rendezvousing in 1279 00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,000 orbit coming back think of it back to a 1280 00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:17,920 lot of the work that we did prior to 1281 00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:19,359 sending humans to the surface of the 1282 00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:20,960 moon we did missions kind of like that 1283 00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:22,880 so you can look at sample return that 1284 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,319 way but certainly if you're going from a 1285 00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,400 purely scientific point of view 1286 00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,079 there's a lot we could learn from 1287 00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:30,319 samples returned from mars 1288 00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:31,920 you know a lot of the instrumentations 1289 00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:34,000 if you go into a geology department at a 1290 00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:35,760 typical university here in the united 1291 00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:37,760 states the equipment and geology labs 1292 00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:40,720 are are gigantic and so it's hard for us 1293 00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:42,800 to shrink those down and have them be as 1294 00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:44,960 capable on a spacecraft we send great 1295 00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:47,040 instruments but the instrumentation here 1296 00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:49,200 on earth is always better 1297 00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:50,960 and so the scientific community for a 1298 00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,640 long time that's been one of their top 1299 00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:54,960 priorities is to bring a sample 1300 00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,079 back and and it remains so 1301 00:48:02,390 --> 00:48:00,319 okay before we wrap up i'm going to 1302 00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,400 bring it back and ask dr grunsfeld to 1303 00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:04,319 start us off and we'll go down the row 1304 00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,440 here 1305 00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:07,920 bringing home personal feelings 1306 00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:10,559 about why i mean this is an incredible 1307 00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:11,520 subject 1308 00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,950 well as you've heard 1309 00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:18,480 in all of these discussions about our 1310 00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:19,920 exploration of the solar system and 1311 00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:20,960 beyond 1312 00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:22,960 we're finding 1313 00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,920 you know 1314 00:48:28,230 --> 00:48:25,920 somewhat surprisingly that 1315 00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:28,240 our universe our galaxy is filled with 1316 00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:30,160 habitable environments 1317 00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:31,839 and it really does beg the question you 1318 00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:33,599 know if 1319 00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:35,359 if there's so many places that life 1320 00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,760 could exist you know where is everybody 1321 00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:39,839 you know and and you know that's part of 1322 00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:42,240 the question of are we alone 1323 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,200 of course we've only been a space faring 1324 00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:47,280 world you know for a little over 50 1325 00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,559 years so i think it's amazing that we've 1326 00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:52,559 made so much progress in such a short 1327 00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:54,640 time that we have a hubble space 1328 00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,720 telescope that can look at the 1329 00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,800 atmosphere of a planet around a nearby 1330 00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:00,319 star 1331 00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:02,000 because when we imagined the hubble 1332 00:49:06,069 --> 00:49:03,680 space telescope and built it we didn't 1333 00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:06,079 know about any planets outside of our 1334 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,800 own solar system 1335 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,079 this july 1336 00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:12,000 we're going to make our first visit to 1337 00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:14,079 the planet pluto we don't know what 1338 00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,240 we're going to find you know and the us 1339 00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:18,800 will have by july been to the first 1340 00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,160 every planet in our solar system 1341 00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,880 and launch the james webb and by 2018 1342 00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:26,240 will launch the james webb space 1343 00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,640 telescope which will allow us access to 1344 00:49:32,710 --> 00:49:30,720 many more planetary atmospheres 1345 00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,720 including some super earths 1346 00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,400 so i think that 1347 00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,400 in our own solar system we have a chance 1348 00:49:41,430 --> 00:49:38,400 of finding that there might have been 1349 00:49:42,870 --> 00:49:41,440 past life on mars or evidence of current 1350 00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:42,880 microbial life 1351 00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:44,960 sometime in the next generation of 1352 00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,040 explorers to mars whether human 1353 00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:49,040 explorers and i share ellen's view that 1354 00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:51,200 the fast progress will be made once we 1355 00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:53,599 have astrobiologists and geologists on 1356 00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:55,839 the surface of mars 1357 00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:57,520 but the next generation of space 1358 00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,359 telescope after the james webb space 1359 00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:01,040 telescope that we'll be able to get high 1360 00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:02,880 precision spectrum 1361 00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:05,599 from a planet around a nearby star that 1362 00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:07,839 we'll be able to see the kind of 1363 00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:09,599 components in the atmosphere that would 1364 00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,000 be solid evidence that there's some sign 1365 00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:14,559 of life out there what that is 1366 00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:17,280 again get a group of scientists together 1367 00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:18,880 a dozen scientists you'll get 20 1368 00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:21,599 opinions on what that sign of life might 1369 00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:23,599 be but i think we're one generation away 1370 00:50:28,230 --> 00:50:25,520 in our solar system whether it's on an 1371 00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:28,240 icy moon or on mars and one generation 1372 00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:30,640 on a planet around a nearby star there's 1373 00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:32,000 one other question though that if we 1374 00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:34,000 find life on mars 1375 00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,839 microbial life is going to be does it 1376 00:50:38,790 --> 00:50:37,280 look like life on earth or is it 1377 00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:38,800 completely different 1378 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,119 once we get out beyond mars 1379 00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:43,760 the likelihood that it's similar to 1380 00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:45,599 earth because we share that material 1381 00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:47,680 gets very very low right and so that's 1382 00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:48,800 where i think it starts getting 1383 00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:50,800 exceptionally exciting excellent dr 1384 00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:51,520 green 1385 00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,599 so i share all of john's views but i'll 1386 00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:55,920 tug on one part of something that he 1387 00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:58,079 said uh with a little different angle 1388 00:51:02,549 --> 00:50:59,520 and that is um 1389 00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:02,559 uh if if indeed the environments that 1390 00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:04,720 we're discovering are 1391 00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:06,079 potentially 1392 00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:09,119 environments where life could arose 1393 00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,559 where are they 1394 00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:12,800 well you know there's a couple ways to 1395 00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,359 look at that one well a complex life 1396 00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:17,760 like us perhaps doesn't last long that's 1397 00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,520 pretty that's a big downer i don't like 1398 00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,119 that view 1399 00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:23,760 uh and when you think about modern 1400 00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:25,200 humans where we actually had an 1401 00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,119 opportunity to change our environment i 1402 00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:29,520 believe that started about 10 to 15 000 1403 00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:31,760 years ago when agriculture got going 1404 00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:33,920 then we actually are in control of our 1405 00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:37,359 environment and and and that's just a 1406 00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:39,520 hardly a blink 1407 00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,920 of the eye in the time of uh of the 1408 00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:43,359 solar system 1409 00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:44,319 so 1410 00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,680 where are they 1411 00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:47,680 maybe they are us 1412 00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,040 maybe we are the first species to 1413 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:53,599 continue on maybe we indeed have that 1414 00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:55,280 explorer gene 1415 00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:57,440 that allows us to leave the bounds of 1416 00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:00,400 earth and move out into the solar system 1417 00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:02,720 and i truly believe that a species that 1418 00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:06,240 does that has the opportunity to survive 1419 00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:08,000 once we know our environment once we 1420 00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:09,760 know the hazards that are around us and 1421 00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:12,000 other types of stars that explode 1422 00:52:15,990 --> 00:52:13,200 and 1423 00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:16,000 near-earth objects etc that 1424 00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:18,160 climate change all the kind of hazards 1425 00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:20,000 that we're uncovering now 1426 00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:22,960 uh for the for the long term uh survival 1427 00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:25,440 of this species it's just we've just got 1428 00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:27,680 to continue on the explorer 1429 00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:29,119 the explorer route and i think we're 1430 00:52:33,829 --> 00:52:32,480 doing a fabulous job let's keep it up 1431 00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:33,839 dr newmark 1432 00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:37,200 um i'll pick up right there uh 1433 00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,800 discovery 1434 00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:40,800 that really is it i mean 1435 00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:42,960 all of us up here started watching man 1436 00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:45,520 first walking the moon 1437 00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:46,880 and 1438 00:52:52,630 --> 00:52:50,319 as john mentioned 1439 00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:52,640 we'll be visiting with pluto the last of 1440 00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,559 the planets that we haven't seen with 1441 00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:56,160 solar pro plus we'll be visiting our 1442 00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:58,640 nearest star in a few years 1443 00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:01,359 we're just continuing to discover what's 1444 00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:03,359 out there so in terms of optimism for 1445 00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:05,440 discovering life it's not it's it's 1446 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:07,760 definitely an if not when and 1447 00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:10,240 i'm it's a when not in there 1448 00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:11,280 of course 1449 00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:12,240 uh 1450 00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:14,240 we're we're there with the the pace of 1451 00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:16,720 our discovery is continuing to to grow 1452 00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,720 where our understanding of our physical 1453 00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,960 environment around us and understanding 1454 00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:22,640 the conditions 1455 00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:25,440 that that enable this environment are 1456 00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:27,359 are we're just poised at that edge as 1457 00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:30,240 ellen was saying and so i'm extremely 1458 00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:32,480 optimistic dr hertz 1459 00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:35,359 20 years ago as i'm an astronomer 20 1460 00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,480 years ago 1461 00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:38,480 most astronomers believe that planets 1462 00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:40,079 around other stars must be common 1463 00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:41,920 because there's nothing special about 1464 00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:44,079 our sun but we thought that it was just 1465 00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:46,160 way too hard to discover them and that 1466 00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:48,319 we would probably remain unsatisfied in 1467 00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:50,640 proving whether that was true or not 1468 00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:53,520 because clever people found ways that we 1469 00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:55,359 could discover and study plants around 1470 00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,119 other stars with the kinds of 1471 00:54:03,190 --> 00:53:59,440 capabilities we're currently 1472 00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:03,200 able to do we now have directly found 1473 00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,559 over 5 000 planets around other stars we 1474 00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:08,319 know that they're common 1475 00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:11,680 and we are thinking constantly of more 1476 00:54:17,270 --> 00:54:14,640 and better ways of interrogating the 1477 00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:17,280 small amounts of light we can get from 1478 00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:19,520 planets around other stars in learning 1479 00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:21,200 about those planets learning about their 1480 00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:22,559 atmospheres learning about their 1481 00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:25,520 evolution learning about how our solar 1482 00:54:29,990 --> 00:54:28,240 system might not be a typical solar 1483 00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:30,000 system but other solar systems seem to 1484 00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,240 have lots of planets closer to their 1485 00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:34,960 star than mercury is to the sun or have 1486 00:54:38,789 --> 00:54:37,119 lots of gas giants or to have lots of 1487 00:54:40,950 --> 00:54:38,799 planets in size between earth and 1488 00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:40,960 neptune super earths and many neptunes 1489 00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:42,720 that have no analogues in our own solar 1490 00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,319 system 1491 00:54:49,190 --> 00:54:47,040 it's such an exciting area of astronomy 1492 00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:49,200 that when i go to astronomy conferences 1493 00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,640 i notice that huge fractions of all the 1494 00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:54,640 earlier career astronomers people whose 1495 00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:57,760 hair colors are darker than mine 1496 00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,359 are are interested in studying 1497 00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,440 exoplanets that it's a growth industry 1498 00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,200 in astronomy it's the most exciting 1499 00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:05,280 areas drawing some of the most creative 1500 00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:07,839 and innovative minds in science to 1501 00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:10,160 trying to understand not just what's 1502 00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:11,920 going on in our own solar system but 1503 00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:14,640 what's going on on planets around other 1504 00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:17,520 stars and trying to answer the question 1505 00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:20,480 are we alone and are we typical even in 1506 00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:22,319 the rest of the galaxy 1507 00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:24,160 dr stofan 1508 00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,760 well i'm going to go out a little bit on 1509 00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:28,079 a limb here and i'm i'm going to say i i 1510 00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,119 think we're going to have strong 1511 00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:31,680 indications of life beyond earth within 1512 00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:33,920 a decade um and i think we're going to 1513 00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:36,400 have definitive evidence within 10 20 to 1514 00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:39,680 30 years we we know where to look we 1515 00:55:44,470 --> 00:55:41,920 know how to look in most cases we have 1516 00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,480 the technology um and we're on a path to 1517 00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:46,480 implementing it and so i think we're 1518 00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,240 definitely on the road and what to me is 1519 00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,000 even more exciting is that we can bring 1520 00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:52,319 all of you along with us because if you 1521 00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,400 go to our nasa website look for our 1522 00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:56,319 projects in citizen science where we 1523 00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,880 have projects from looking at 1524 00:56:02,549 --> 00:56:00,720 stars to help classify whether they're 1525 00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:02,559 potentially likely to have planets it's 1526 00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:04,799 a program we have called disk detective 1527 00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:06,559 to looking at the data was that was 1528 00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:09,119 returned from stardust or helping us to 1529 00:56:12,549 --> 00:56:11,040 understand mars these are projects that 1530 00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:12,559 everybody around the country can get 1531 00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:15,599 involved with um so don't just listen to 1532 00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,760 us don't just read about it come help us 1533 00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:19,119 discover whether there's life in the 1534 00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:21,359 solar system and beyond 1535 00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:22,960 ladies and gentlemen please give a round 1536 00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:38,390 and i want to thank our tv audience on 1537 00:56:41,510 --> 00:56:40,480 our website for joining us today 1538 00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:41,520 i want to 1539 00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:43,680 say that this is the official kickoff 1540 00:56:47,349 --> 00:56:46,240 for nasa's solar system and beyond 1541 00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:47,359 campaign 1542 00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:49,119 and you can find out more because 1543 00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:52,240 there's going to be a lot more coming at 1544 00:56:55,990 --> 00:56:55,280 nasa beyond and of course you can always 1545 00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:56,000 get 1546 00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:57,359 updates and information on all the 1547 00:57:00,309 --> 00:56:58,640 incredible missions and the science 1548 00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:00,319 mission directorate and nasa as a whole 1549 00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,280 on www.nasa.gov 1550 00:57:07,030 --> 00:57:05,359 and finally ladies and gentlemen 1551 00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:07,040 the next time 1552 00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:09,200 you go outside and look up the night sky 1553 00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:11,520 and see the stars 1554 00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:14,720 remember your nation space program nasa 1555 00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:16,880 has assets and more coming 1556 00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,040 looking to answer the questions 1557 00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,119 discussed today 1558 00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:23,599 nasa is determined 1559 00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:24,839 nasa is 1560 00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,520 committed and